Showing posts with label gather. Show all posts
Showing posts with label gather. Show all posts

Wednesday 5 February 2014

No reconciliation possible between CBM and Duncan Heaster from Carelinks

It is really frustrating to have to admit that in the Christadelphian world it is like everywhere else in this world, that we do find people who are more interested in their own position than in the welfare of others.

For months now, several Belgian brethren and the CBM linkman for Belgium Chris Edwards have tried to come to a reconciliation between Duncan Heaster, Carelinks and CBM (The Christadelphian Bible Mission). We where surprised to find Duncan Heaster under the members of Christadelphians for Unity and as such we did hope he had come to other thoughts and intentions for the Christadelphian Community, wiling them to unite. But we got a wrong impression, he even tries to get more division in the Christadelphian community and succeeded in a certain way. (It will make him laugh at us.)

Like in many denominations the Christadelphians have by the years become victim of different opinions between its members and got different groups of which some did not want to work together with the other. Such division in Christian communities we do consider very bad.


English: cover of the Photodrama of Creation
English: cover of the Photodrama of Creation (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
In Christianity there are even groups who say that they are the right group because they have no division, but mostly we can see that they themselves are also an offshoot of an other denomination. For example you can find the Jehovah Witnesses who always claim to be the only right denomination because they have unity in their ranks. They forget they themselves came from a schism-group in the Biblestudent world. They even claim that their founder was brother Charles Taze Russell (a pupil of our brother Dr. Thomas), though he never founded that organisation. Several people who left the Jehovah Witnesses also formed other denominations, like the Nazarene Friends and many ex-Jehovah Witnesses groups.

Christendom has many many divisions, but it is not different by other religions as the Muslims and Hindu's. also in those religions you can find many different denominations or groups with different believes. as prophesied in the Bible we have come in to the days where those different groups will come to oppose each other and even will go fighting one against the other.

With much regret we do have to say to interested people in the provinces of West and East Flanders, Antwerp and Limburg that we can not offer them a meeting place, because Carelinks does not want to let us know where they have ecclesiae in those places.

For us it is more important that people could come together, gathering in the name of Christ, studying the Bible together. We are not concerned so much if they do belong to this or that group of the Christadelphian community. but it looked like others are really concerned with whom we do want to have contacts. So certain Christadelphians asked us to take away article from this site or not to show others their name on this site - probably they would not like to be associated with us or with people we would like to associate with.

The whole situation escalated and derailed in such a way that the linkman for Belgium in Great-Britain resigned after a harsh reaction of his fellow brethren at the CBM Great-Britain. a new linkman for Belgium has been installed, but I did not have contact with him. I do hope we shall be able to co-operate nicely in the future.

Because our trials to associate with Carelinks several Christadelphians would not co-operate with us and do not like to have news from their ecclesia on our site. Without much news from Christadelphians it is no use that this site will keep its name "Christadelphian World". Therefore I do invite all readers of this site to give me some advice, either to keep its name and to continue trying to build up a community of lovers of Christ willing to live in the "City of Christ" (Christadelphia) or to be brothers and sisters in Christ (Christadelphian); or changing its name to "Christian World" or "The World we live in" or something else?
All suggestions are welcome.

I do agree I became very frustrated to find also in this denomination such a division. When I was a non-trinitarian Baptist I have seen thousands of Baptists having to change form denomination because the Southern Baptist Union became to strong and imposed the trinitarian teaching on all of its members.

I did already change twice of denomination, being born in an Old Conservative Roman Catholic Family, having been an acolyte, though always having questioned the Trinity, having become a Baptist, where I also encountered a very free unbounded spirit where many ideas were allowed to be said. Now once more confronted with people who want to have their person put in the forefront and be taken as the leader, though Jesus should be our leader and not one other human person.

Jesus (Jeshua) should be the cornerstone of the Church and it are his teachings we should follow, not the commandments of a human worldly organisation. Those who want to accept Jesus as their Saviour and would like to accept what this man has done for them, having really died and not having faked his death as a reincarnated god, should join hands and come together.

I do hope those people who want to take Jesus as their lord and cornerstone of their community, living in Belgium (Flanders, Antwerp, Limburg, Wallonia) shall understand our limits and that it is not our fault we can not bring them in contact with other Christadelphian communities which are not linked with the CBM. We just do not have their addresses and Carelinks does not want to have their members to have contact with members of our community.

Also the contact with other Bible Students do not go so smoothly. Also some of them do not want to meet with other members of our community.
With my Lifestyle magazine Stepping Toes I would love to see more serious Bible Students working together and sharing ideas. But also their I am confronted with not many writers willing to write for the magazine or willing to share their ideas. I am thankful to those who do not mind writing on that platform and not mind meeting with other believing people, trying to edify  each-other and helping each other to grow in faith.

I do hope the magazine shall receive some more contributors in due time, but for now I am already pleased some different ideas may be posed together on one platform. I would love to find readers of this site also coming to look at that platform where many ideas may be put together. Please do find Stepping Toes and enjoy the writings over there.

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2014 February 14: (18.08 hours):

For those who commented on this article and can not see their comment, I do apologise. This website was also some time off public, beyond my own wishes. Because a person and his organisation attacking me, a complaint was made about this site being inappropriate. Therefore it got censored. I did also ask Google to reconsider the complaint and hope all reaction will soon be again available to the general public.

Please see also my open reaction about this dangerous situation of censorship: Certain people trying to stem freedom of speech



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Sunday 3 April 2011

Structuur -structure

This is a translation of the justification for the Dutch keyword "structuur" = English "structure", the fundamental, if intangible, notion referring to the recognition, observation, nature, and stability of patterns and relationships of entities. The structure can bring forth the System (from Latin systēma, in turn from Greek σύστημα systēma, "whole compounded of several parts or members, system", literary "composition") is a set of interacting or interdependent system components forming an integrated whole.

In the original article I go into the ethymological sense of the word and give several synonyms or other words of which there is no translation found for an English equivalent. Those words are placed between {}brackets . (Perhaps I should purchase me some etymological dictionaries)

Under the 'tag' or wordindicator or the key word "structuur" ="structure", you will be able to find articles over the structure of something, here in particular of a belief municipality.  It will go over the manner or the act of putting together something which is constructed completely in itself decided unity put together or been built up by together composed elements or by the arrangement of parts. 
It mainly shall handle the manner of organisation and the organic form.

One will find there discussions over the structure, superstructure, the section, all earthly things or worldly of an organization.  It also will go over the order, construction or architecture of the association, group or community, in particular it will be going over the rules or order round a realisation or to come to an organization  so to rule moderation or ordering can be become arranged .

The structure will there for see to that something is regulated and in order so that it can stand on its own legs and be as ( or remain).

The structure is what can give a hold  for the members.  Also it can give example to build or construct something on or to form a security on.  As the first Christians could count on the example of the Roman structure of assemblies and make a same system to gather and to organise meetings for their working of the belief community and so the ecclesia became the used assembly form for their gatherings.

To be able to come to that fixed form one must be able to organize, bring in order,{ in esse brengen (houden)}=(?) 'bring (hold) in ash' , {ordonneren} ordain or put in decrees, put order on affairs, bring in the clean, bring something on the manner or put (set) on its legs.
To come to the structure people will have to organize, classify, {opschikken} move up/over, defer, suspend, {schavelen} ('set to windward'), {opschikken} move up/over//arrange//(decking themselve out), gather, {bijschikken, samenschikken, goedleggen} put right/straighten out, putting in good order, but also to clear, or to bring something out of the way {wegruimen} clear away/up, so that one can put something in the right place and not make a botch of it.

Through reasoning and by coming to arrangements one can come to manage, regulate, regulate rules, classify regularisation, {rangeren} shunt/switch, systematize, come to normalisation, come to {verschikken} rearrangement, move or shift to an arrangement/organization/disposition, organization, agreement, regulation, {regelering}, regulation, regularisation, classification and {terechtbrenging} to make something of it. 




Find more in dictionaries:

> social organisation, social organization, social structure, social system,

structure (n.)


> http://dictionary.sensagent.com/structure/en-en/

Wednesday 7 October 2009

The days are coming

"When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will show myself holy through them in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the LORD their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the house of Israel, declares the Sovereign LORD."
Ezekiel 39:27-29

Mosaic of the 12 Tribes of Israel. From Givat ...
Mosaic of the 12 Tribes of Israel. From Givat Mordechai synagogue wall in Jerusalem. Top row, right to left: Reuben, Judah, Dan, Asher Middle: Simeon, Issachar, Naphtali, Joseph Bottom: Levi, Zebulun, Gad, Benjamin (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

"The days are coming," declares the LORD, when the reaper will be overtaken by the plowman and the planter by the one treading grapes. New wine will drip from the mountains and flow from all the hills. I will bring back my exiled people Israel; they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them. They will plant vineyards and drink their wine; they will make gardens and eat their fruit. I will plant Israel in their own land, never again to be uprooted from the land I have given them, says the LORD your God."
Amos 9:13-15

"This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Write in a book all the words I have spoken to you. The days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will bring my people Israel and Judah back from captivity and restore them to the land I gave their forefathers to possess, says the LORD."
Jeremiah 30:2-3

"Hear the word of the LORD, O nations; proclaim it in distant coastlands: He who scattered Israel will gather them and will watch over his flock like a shepherd."
Jeremiah 31:10

"I will bring Judah and Israel back from captivity and will rebuild them as they were before."
Jeremiah 33:7

"I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into two kingdoms."
Ezekiel 37:21-22

"Then they will know that I am the LORD their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind."
Ezekiel 39:28

"I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in."
Romans 11:25

"I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
Matthew 5:18

"... I can tell you that for the first time in the history of the Jewish people since the Second Temple period, in the next decade and a half the majority of the Jewish people will live in the Jewish land. If this is not the materialisation of prophecy, then nothing is."
- Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
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Feast of the Tabernacles Conference
English: Secretary of State Madeleine Albright...
English: Secretary of State Madeleine Albright (C), Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (L) and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat (R) in Houghton House at the Wye River Conference Center, during the Wye River Memorandum talks עברית: מזכירת המדינה מדלן אולברייט (מרכז), ראש ממשלת ישראל בנימין נתניהו (שמאל) ויו"ר הראשות הפלסטינית יאסר ערפאת בשיחות לקראת הסכם ואי. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

(International Christian Embassy)
October 5, 1998
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