Een Australische zuster (Ruth Bartlett) vroeg zich af of er iemand ooit over gedacht had waarom, toen Jezus werd gekruisigd, hij zijn moeder onder de hoede van Johannes gaf, die vanaf die dag haar meenam in zijn eigen huis.
De Schrift geeft in Handelingen 1,14, dat Jezus broers zijn volgelingen waren na de opstanding en het is in de volksmond gedacht dat het boek van Jakobus werd geschreven door Jezus broer! Waarom zou Jezus dan zijn moeder geven in de handen van Johannes?
Voor Christus' geest was er volgens JB een prachtige overweging die groter is dan onze gemeenschappelijke, aardse begrippen van gevoel voor de eigen ouder. Die prachtige overweging is genoemd Opstanding. Door elke nagel, door elke splinter, met elke slag, slaan, of zweepslag - bleef een lichtend, schitterend, licht. Opstanding!
Het maakte de geliefd Johannes dichter staan zoals een broer, en maakte hem 'welzijnscoördinator' van de 'Kerk aan de voet van de kruis', de enige Kerk in bestaan op dat donkere moment, de enige overal in de wereld. Alsook maakte het Johannes, een medelevende man, een voorbeeld van een die zowel zoon kon zijn als "leverancier" van de belangrijkste bepaling waar een familie nood aan had - die geestelijke dingen. Het maakte Joannes ook een surrogaatzoon. Niet een die vervangt, maar een die is gezien als de Heer wist dat hij niet meer zou zijn. Dat ging veel moeilijker zijn voor zijn moeder dan voer een van ons die nooit de Christus heeft "gezien".
JB zegt ook dat het van Johannes ook een voorbeeld maakt waarvan een individu 'in Christus' altijd hoort te zijn. Een leverancier voor diegenen die houden van, en hun Heer eren en dienen.
Johannes die een "zoon" van Maria wordt en 'de broer' van de Heer lijkt als een eenvoudig proces, maar het is ook heel verwant naar dat waardoor wij de broer van de Heer worden.
Jezus "gebruikt" Maria, tegen haar heel eigen natuur, om een moeder te zijn wanneer zij (van nature) zonder een zoon zal komen. En ja, zij kan andere kinderen hebben gehad -, maar zo ja, de kwestie is enkel versterkt, dat het 'een broer van de Heer' vergt, geen zoon van het vlees, om de noden van de moeder voor de Heer te stelpen!
Maria die ook andere kinderen levend heeft gehad moest dan tegen over deze kinderen ook zeggen dat voor haar bepaling zij deze man Johannes zoals haar zoon zouden moeten beschouwen.
Maria had andere kinderen om voor haar te zorgen maar werd verteld hun zorg ten gunste van deze man te negeren! Voor een moeder is dat inderdaad een uitdaging. Misschien vereist dit meer tijd door middel van meditatie dan er voor dit moment kan worden toegestaan -, maar beschouw door het zo te doen de vroegere woorden van Christus ; "wie ook de wens van mijn Vader zal doen die in hemel is, is hetzelfde mijn broer en zus, en moeder".
En zo uitdagend dit is; daarin ligt de waarheid van de kwestie. Zonder het zoenoffer van Christus konden wij niet beweren zoals wij nu doen 'in hem' te zijn. De vraag, 'waarom Jezus zijn moeder over geeft aan de zorg van Johanes en Johannes aan de zorg van zijn moeder', is persoonlijk diep en eisend. Het kan niet met elegante theologische beschrijvingen van woorden en betekenissen beantwoord worden. Het antwoord kan in actie gevonden worden - slechts zo en beduidend, toen het in actie werd bezorgd, op een kruis!
Lees hier meer over > Why, when Jesus was on the cross, he was given his mother into the care of John
* Would it have not been more natural for Mary's other sons to care for her?
Looked at by Marcus Ampe from a Christian viewpoint.
De wereld bekeken vanuit een Christelijke visie door Marcus Ampe
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Tuesday, 25 May 2010
Monday, 5 January 2009
The Word being a quality or aspect of God Himself
Teddy Trublood wrote:
"Word" and 1 John 5:7, KJV
(KJV) 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Some of us have met persons who believe that God is only one person, but that he has been in different forms at times (the Father or the Son). They are often called "Oneness" believers.
Because most of them believe that these two persons did not both exist at the same time (therefore keeping God as one person alone), they deny the pre-existence of the Son. Especially do they deny that 'the Word' at John 1 was the Son. To do this they insist that the Word at this point was simply a quality or aspect of God Himself and not another person who was with God (the Father). Most of them will say that Jesus only came into existence as a person when he was born on earth.
(KJV) John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
It is difficult to prove to them that the Word in John 1 was actually a person in heaven who became Jesus. (I try to reason on Phil. 2:5-8, 1Jn 4:9; etc.)
It may be helpful to use 1 John 5:7 for any of those "Oneness" folks who also believe the KJV is the best (or only) English translation to be used by Christians.
Notice that this spurious addition to scripture in the KJV uses "Word."
So, for those who insist on using the KJV, here is evidence for "the Word" being a person who was with God in the beginning being back as the same person with God again.
To which I reply:
Christ was the word "made flesh" (John 1:14) The Word expresses the divine intention, mind or purpose.
"Logos" does not in itself denote personality.(masculine gender in AV; Diaglott in the neuter) You can compare it with wisdom which is personified as a woman. (Proverbs 8:1,2,22, 23)
The creation was accompanied by the word, i.e. Gods speaking. (Gen.1:3; John 1:7,8) (Ps. 33:6,9; 107:20; 147:15,18,19; Isa 55:11) "By the word of Jehovah the heavens were made"
“For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: {standing: Gr. consisting}” (2Pe 3:5 AV) “But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgement and perdition of ungodly men.” (2Pe 3:7 AV) Kept in store by the same word.
“Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.” (Heb 11:3 AV)
“He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion. When he uttereth his voice, [there is] a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures. {multitude: or, noise} {with: or, for}” (Jer 10:12-13 AV)
God's Word was with God (and in God), but angels, prophets and Christ have been vehicles by which God has expressed his Logos. Though Christ is the complete manifestation of the Logos. When the "word was made flesh" (Jo 1:14) Christ became the manifestation of the Word (Re 19:13; Lu 1:2) since his doctrine and words came from Jehovah his Father (Jo 7:16;17:14)
Php 2:6-7 does not mean being originally before he was born the image and glory of God, but rather being the image of God and continuing to be (1Co 11:7)
Born out of the Father he could be the most high of all men, because the others had a human father and mother, while Christ only a human mother but the heavenly Father.
Although Christ was in the form of God in his semblance and demeanour, he took on him the semblance and demeanour of a slave. (learning obedience Heb 5:8,9)(washing feet: Jo 13:14) Submitting his will to that of his Father.
"Word" and 1 John 5:7, KJV
(KJV) 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Some of us have met persons who believe that God is only one person, but that he has been in different forms at times (the Father or the Son). They are often called "Oneness" believers.
Because most of them believe that these two persons did not both exist at the same time (therefore keeping God as one person alone), they deny the pre-existence of the Son. Especially do they deny that 'the Word' at John 1 was the Son. To do this they insist that the Word at this point was simply a quality or aspect of God Himself and not another person who was with God (the Father). Most of them will say that Jesus only came into existence as a person when he was born on earth.
(KJV) John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
It is difficult to prove to them that the Word in John 1 was actually a person in heaven who became Jesus. (I try to reason on Phil. 2:5-8, 1Jn 4:9; etc.)
It may be helpful to use 1 John 5:7 for any of those "Oneness" folks who also believe the KJV is the best (or only) English translation to be used by Christians.
Notice that this spurious addition to scripture in the KJV uses "Word."
So, for those who insist on using the KJV, here is evidence for "the Word" being a person who was with God in the beginning being back as the same person with God again.
To which I reply:
Christ was the word "made flesh" (John 1:14) The Word expresses the divine intention, mind or purpose.
"Logos" does not in itself denote personality.(masculine gender in AV; Diaglott in the neuter) You can compare it with wisdom which is personified as a woman. (Proverbs 8:1,2,22, 23)
The creation was accompanied by the word, i.e. Gods speaking. (Gen.1:3; John 1:7,8) (Ps. 33:6,9; 107:20; 147:15,18,19; Isa 55:11) "By the word of Jehovah the heavens were made"
“For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: {standing: Gr. consisting}” (2Pe 3:5 AV) “But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgement and perdition of ungodly men.” (2Pe 3:7 AV) Kept in store by the same word.
“Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.” (Heb 11:3 AV)
“He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion. When he uttereth his voice, [there is] a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures. {multitude: or, noise} {with: or, for}” (Jer 10:12-13 AV)
God's Word was with God (and in God), but angels, prophets and Christ have been vehicles by which God has expressed his Logos. Though Christ is the complete manifestation of the Logos. When the "word was made flesh" (Jo 1:14) Christ became the manifestation of the Word (Re 19:13; Lu 1:2) since his doctrine and words came from Jehovah his Father (Jo 7:16;17:14)
Php 2:6-7 does not mean being originally before he was born the image and glory of God, but rather being the image of God and continuing to be (1Co 11:7)
Born out of the Father he could be the most high of all men, because the others had a human father and mother, while Christ only a human mother but the heavenly Father.
Although Christ was in the form of God in his semblance and demeanour, he took on him the semblance and demeanour of a slave. (learning obedience Heb 5:8,9)(washing feet: Jo 13:14) Submitting his will to that of his Father.
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