Expenses, costs - Onkosten, uitgaven

Onkosten: expenses, expenditure, outlay, costs.The financial burden involved typically in a course of action or manner of living. The losses to realise something.

Several times Christians are forced to make expenses without, seemingly any advantage or which lie outside the usual personal gain. 

Unfortunately we can not escape the financial matters because almost for everything must be paid.  To maintain a church community  and to do the the spiritual work of spreading the Word of God often a lot of money has to be paid for. We are bounded by many affairs which have to be paid for like all the material to realize the things.

To hold meetings a place is needed, something to sit on, sufficient heat or a dry spot, sufficient light.  All the things to receive people shall cast something. Mostly an ecclesia or parish brings  a lot of paper work, of which the parer, ink, print apparatuses, copy machines etcetera have to be paid for.  To maintain the church communities, the cleaning things, making contacts, telephones, internet connections, a.o. all bear a price ticket.

To cover the expenses of the meetings several churches hold during their service a passing of a little basket or an offering on plates as a collection.  In some churches, there is a division during a service with an offerande or an offering.  In the 'Offergang'  'offering' or oblation the people  present bread, wine and sometimes also other affairs, as flowers and money, as an offer in worship.



Bible researchers and Biblestudents will give the preference to the age-old use of the voluntary gift.  Although in some communities you also shall find collections. That option is chosen because one otherwise shall have too little earnings generated to be able to foresee all the necessary services for the church community.

The Biblestudents, Bible-researchers, Bible-scientists, and o. a. Christadelphians find that they received the Word of God for nothing they have to communicate it to others.  They will ask no money for the performing of services.  But naturally everybody can give freely a voluntary contribution to cover the expenses made.  Everybody may give to his or her own abilities or fortune, in kind or money, and only when he or they will.
Some students of the Bible, as in several protestant groups, talk about giving 'one tenth' of the persons income,  or 'Tithe' or 'tithing'.  Hereby the religious people are pointed out that God  asks us a small part of our belongings to share with the community.  Several protestant churches point or ask then also to take distance of a tenth of the income to the advantage of the church.

Personally we prefer to keep to voluntary contributions.  Only, unfortunately must we well observe that expenses often exceed the gifts.  We only can hope that everything always comes just on its legs.  And perhaps we may now and then remind the people that everything in life costs money and that we also are dependent of this world for the realisation of all the worldly things.  Thus for us gifts are also very welcome.

Onkosten: kosten die voor iets worden gemaakt, uitgaven, de prijs die men moet betalen om iets te kunnen verwezenlijken. De vorderingen die kunnen gemaakt worden of geëist worden voor geleverde diensten of producten.

Meermaals zijn het kosten die men gedwongen is te maken zonder dat men er, schijnbaar althans, voordeel van heeft, of die buiten het gewone persoonlijk gewin liggen.

Spijtig genoeg kan men er niet onderuit dat er bijna voor alles moet betaald worden. Om een kerkgemeenschap te onderhouden en om het geestelijk werk van verspreiding van het Woord van God te verrichten kan men er eenmaal niet aan ontkomen voor vele zaken te moeten betalen vooraleer men het materiaal kan gebruiken om de dingen te verwezenlijken.

Bijeenkomsten hebben een plaats nodig, mensen iets om op te zitten, voldoende warmte of een droge plek, voldoende licht. De voorzieningen om de mensen te ontvangen kosten dus geld. Meestal komt er ook papierwerk bij kijken, waarbij men dan de kosten heeft voor papier, inkt, afdruktoestellen, kopieerders enz.. De kerkgemeenschap onderhouden, poetswerk, contactopname, telefoons, internetverbindingen, e.d. dragen allemaal een prijskaartje.

Om de kosten van de bijeenkomsten te dekken houden verscheidene kerken tijdens hun dienst een ophaling of collecte. In sommige kerken is er tijdens een dienst een offerande deel of een offergang. In de Offergang wordt dan door het aanwezige volk brood, wijn en soms ook andere zaken, als bloemen en geld, aangeboden.

Bijbelonderzoekers zullen er de voorkeur aan geven om het eeuwenoude gebruik van de vrijwillige gave te verkiezen. Alhoewel men in sommige gemeenschappen toch ook nog collectes vind om dat voor die optie gekozen is omdat men anders te weinig inkomsten genereert om de kerkgemeenschap te kunnen voorzien van al de nodige diensten.

In de Rooms Katholieke Kerk was er vroeger buiten de collectes ook nog het Stipendium, of het aalmoes dat, volgens het uitdrukkelijk door de Kerk van Rome goedgekeurde gebruik, mocht gegeven worden aan de priester, met het verzoek de H. Mis tot intentie van de gever op te dragen.
Vandaag laten de priesters in de Rooms Katholieke Kerk zich betalen voor allerlei diensten.

De Bijbelstudenten, Bijbelonderzoekers, Bijbelvorsers, en o.a. Christadelphians vinden dat zij het Woord van God voor niets hebben gekregen en voor niets aan anderen moeten mededelen. Zij zullen geen geld vragen voor het verrichten van diensten. Maar natuurlijk staat het iedereen vrij om een vrijwillige bijdrage te geven om gemaakte kosten te kunnen dekken. Iedereen mag naar eigen vermogen geven, in natura of geld, en wanneer hij of zij maar wil.

Bij sommige studenten van de Bijbel wordt er, zoals in meerdere protestantse richtingen, ook wel over 'Tienden' of 'Tithe' of 'tithing' gesproken. Hierbij worden de gelovigen er op gewezen dat God ons vraagt een klein deel van ons hebben en houden of ons inkomen te delen met de gemeenschap. Verscheidene protestantse kerken wijzen of vragen dan ook afstand van een tiende van het inkomen ten voordele van de kerk.


Persoonlijk houden wij er liefst aan om af te gaan op werkelijk vrijwillige bijdragen. Maar, spijtig genoeg moeten wij wel opmerken dat kosten dikwijls de giften overstijgen. Wij kunnen slechts hopen dat alles altijd juist op zijn pootjes terecht komt. En misschien mogen wij nu en dan eens de mensen er aan herinneren dat alles in het leven geld kost en dat wij ook afhankelijk zijn van deze wereld voor de verwezenlijking van al de wereldse dingen. Dus voor ons zijn giften ook steeds welkom.

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Onkosten blijven onherroepelijk verbonden aan het gebruik.

kasbehoeften, uitgave, uitgaaf, besteding, vertering, bekostigen, bekostiging, onderhoud, levensstandaard, onvoorziene uitgaven, expensen, impensen, spesen, spiesen, cum expensis, kost, schadepost

Uitgeven, besteden aan, verteren, opteren, de onkosten bekijken/bestrijden, de kosten dragen/maken, bekostigen, zich in kosten steken, geld gebruiken/uitgeven, geld in iets steken, botje bij botje leggen, in de bus moeten blazen, in de buidel blazen, de aap aanspreken, zijn korentje groen eten, zich onderhouden, van de hand in de tand leven, vertering maken, een gat in zijn hand hebben, een gat in zijn goed maken, naar de toon leven, doormaken, doorbrengen, doordoen, doordraaien, opdoen,

kosten, een hele kluit geld kosten, oplopen, er aan moeten geloven, in de papieren lopen, de centen bijten hem, het geld druipt (gaat gauw, glijdt, glipt) door de vingers, dat hakt er in, dat kan bruintje (grauwtje) niet trekken, dar hangt veel geld aan, het geld smelt mooi, de beurs slinkt aardig

Contribution - Contributie, bijdrage

Bijdrage of contributie

Bijdrage: contribution. MEcontribucioun fr MF contribution fr L contribution contributio dividing distributing, assigning fr L contributus.

D Beiträge

 Act of contributing or a payement imposed upon a body of persons or on the population or group of people, a sum of monney paid as a form of tax or voluntary contributed.
  In certain churches a tithe or tenth to pay or give for the suport of the church or to cover the costs of the congregation or ecclesia. A form of tax imposed by certain churches to their members for religious purposes and especially for the support of the priesthood or religious establishement.
Other churches say that the administration of the Last Sacraments should be free of charge but dare to ask of the requesters a contribution (with direct price) to cover the expenses of their pastoral work and diaconal work.  According to them, the direct prices may not be a limitation however to ask for those sacraments.  They are for men that live of a low income always negotiable.  This method can give men an easy feeling that they do not beg but also give an idea how much they could contribute so not to have to give too little.  It can give the requesters a certain form of peace of mind. 

In some protestant churches there is also worked with collection coupons that either become furnished at the church members or that for every visitor at the church lie ready by the coffee buffet in the church.  By others, there lies an envelope which the churchgoers can put  their financial contributions. 

The Belgian Christadelhians find that the mostly suitable form for financial contribution is having a collection box or basket behind or on an inconspicuous spot, which gives the opportunity far everybody that wishes, to give a voluntary financial present discreetly.

 

Contributions are not have to be accounted for on the financial site.  One can contribute or furnish also by performing through work in the church community.  The foreseeing of flowers, hall decoration, taking care of the common classrooms, keeping everything clean, foreseen of the delicacies for after the service, etc give all sorts of activities, that also must be performed in the community , and where one mainly must count on voluntary co-workers.

 

Textually people also can contribute.  Literary writings, dissertations over Biblical and scientific subjects to discuss, can enrich the spiritual life of the entire community.  The lectures are not  always have to be provided by one man and how more people can contribute towards the church community, how more realm on spiritual understanding can become realised and how less danger there exists for an indoctrination or a concept from one person.  By bringing texts of more people several thoughts can be discussed and a larger variety of subjects and perspectives can come at bid.

The contribution can according to a promotion its till the welfare of the community.  Also contribute can possibilities create to do new things arise. 

But also through gifts within the church community, the ecclesia or parish can on her turn then again contribute to the commune, the town or living environment.  Churches have shown a long tradition in the middle-class commune.  In the anglo-saxon countries it is (or has been) the custom that churches offer all sorts of peoples activities through the year.  In our regions we do not see that so much, outside by the Catholic church the renting of the parish house where then all sorts of eat festivities and other affairs are offered for the locals to meet.  Also we can see  that it are the churches who remain in the old districts as other organizations already have left. They try that to be at the disposition for the needy and try to offer help where they can.  For that lasting presence, also called ecclesiastic presention, are according to some men professionals 'indispensable'.  For them it is asked to much for the volunteers to have to  work in the districts alone.  And actually it is well so, only one person can not do all that work, but in mutual cooperation of the church members it can be made possible. Together all members can, under a particular leadership, spend attention at the problems in districts and at the role belief can play in municipalities to improvement of those problems.

The approach, understandings and methods of the Christian Community can furnish a contribution at a harmonious society and promote the luck and welfare of so much possible living beings. 

The hospitality of the church community has to stretch further than the table of the Lord by which all baptised are welcome but all the others should also feel welcome to become partners to a wonderful event. 

Were former parishioners quite narrowly concerned on the ecclesiastic life, now it is difficult to find volunteers and people eager to help to construct the parish community.  Many men can find no time to invest themselves with activities in the church community.  For them, the financial contribution appears the easiest manner to support  the church community.

However, when you are really interested in belief, you can not escape to fix your relation to the developments in the church community.  Everybody on this earth must come till selfresearch.  Asking yourself question about faith and in what you want to belief. What will I do with my belief, for what do I need the church community and which contribution can I furnish to that church community?  Because belief and church are not obviously any more, it is difficult to find answers to all those questions. 

Therefore it is fine that in the history of men examples can be found of women and men that can help us to find our own way.  Women and men that have a particular meaning because of the way they lived.  They can help us to find the direction in which we can find answers on our life questions.

God needs men.  He needed Jesus of Nazareth.  But especially also: he needs us to give the love hands and feet.  In our actions Gods Light can break through. Besides, this is what Jesus wants from his followers, that they spread or carry out  the gospel further but also that indispensable love.  Each other giving life ... that can we!  That we do by stepping out of our own silly little world and to give each other attention, to take each other serious and listening to each other's  stories and urges.  By letting each other feel: I want to commit to you.  By coming  together on particular places so that every believer is able to carry out his faith and also can be of support and anchor for others.  The social contact that there can be given is in the commune of that belief group then becomes of very big importance. That is a not a neglect-able contribution.

For small small belief communities, especially all those which are not supported by institutional churches, it is more difficult to remain upright and to be able to cover the expenses.  Because they already have lesser means they are tremendously limited in the carrying out of their belief and in making their belief community known to others.  The mutual solidarity between men in the small belief community can certainly remain - how small in number the community also is, if these have been built on true belief.  Then it becomes importatn for them as a small group of enthusiastic men that they can keep the fire burning and that they remain seeking to forms of being together church that can fit their community. 

As local religiously we can only badly hope that by more men shall come more understanding  that the different part activities to service stand of the structure of one community and her mission. That more men may become more actively involved by the structure and the maintenance of the church community and may realize that it is a 'large' number of small branches that necessarily can be fulfilled.  Everybody in the beliefs community must there be self conscious that the church community has to play a positive striking and at the same time recognizable role in the towns community and that activities and projects of the church community can give a larger acquaintance at the belief community through which on her turn the community also again shall be able to grow and so will get a good return.

De bijdrage is het aandeel dat men geeft, welk op wetenschappelijk, theoretisch en op praktisch en financieel vlak kan liggen. Het is de verwachting voor het toekennen of afgeven van een betaling in natura of geldelijke middelen aan een groep van mensen of aan de bevolking, als een vorm van taks of vrijwillige voorziening om bepaalde kosten te kunnen dekken.Zo kunnen in verscheidene kerken de kosten door vrijwillige bijdragen gedekt worden.

In bepaalde kerken wordt er op gerekend dat de leden van de kerkgemeenschap uit eigen overtuiging vrijwillig een tiende (tithe) van hun loon of inkomsten afstaan aan de kerkgemeenschap, zo dat de kosten van de kerkgemeenschap of congregatie kunnen gedekt worden. Bij sommige kerken wordt dit (tithing)  zelfs als iets vanzelfsprekend gezien en kan men eigenlijk niet meer van een vrijwillige bijdrage spreken maar van een heffing op het inkomen. Deze heffing of 'Tiende' wordt dan gebruikt om de priesters, pastors, dominees of predikers en het religieus establishment te ondersteunen.

Andere kerken zeggen dat de bediening van de sacramenten gratis is bij hen maar vragen van de aanvragers een bijdrage (met richtprijs) om de onkosten van hun pastoraal en diaconaal werk te dragen. Volgens hen mogen de richtprijzen echter geen beletsel zijn om een viering aan te vragen. Ze zijn voor mensen die leven van een laag inkomen altijd bespreekbaar. Deze methode kan de mensen een gerust gevoel geven dat zij niet bedelen maar ook een idee geven hoeveel zij zouden kunnen bijdragen om niet te weinig te moeten geven. Het kan de aanvragers aldus een zekere vorm van gemoedsrust geven.

In sommige protestantse kerken wordt er ook gewerkt met collectebonnen die ofwel bezorgd worden aan de kerkleden of die voor iedere bezoeker aan de kerk klaar liggen bij het koffiebuffet in de kerk. Bij anderen ligt er daar een envelop waar de kerkgangers dan hun geldelijke bijdragen in kunnen stoppen.

De ons meest geschikte vorm voor financiële bijdrage is van achter of op een onopvallend plekje en collectebus of mandje waar iedereen die wenst, onopvallend een vrijwillige financiële schenking kan doen.

Bijdragen hoeven echter niet enkel op financieel vlak te liggen. Men kan ook bijdragen leveren door werk in de kerkgemeenschap te verrichten. Het voorzien van bloemen, zaalversiering, proper houden van de gemeenschappelijke lokalen,  voorzien van de versnaperingen voor na de dienst, enz. geven allerlei activiteiten die ook in de gemeenschap moeten verricht worden en waar men hoofdzakelijk moet rekenen op vrijwillige medewerkers.

Tekstueel kunnen ook bijdragen geleverd worden. Letterkundige geschriften, verhandelingen over Bijbelse en wetenschappelijk te bespreken onderwerpen, kunnen het geestelijk leven van de gehele gemeenschap verrijken. De lezingen hoeven niet steeds door één man voorzien te worden en hoe meer mensen bijdragen in de kerkgemeenschap, hoe rijker aan spiritueel inzicht zij kan worden en hoe minder gevaar er bestaat voor een indoctrinatie of een denkbeeld vanuit één persoon. Door teksten van meerdere mensen naar voor te kunnen brengen kunnen ook meerdere gedachten besproken worden en een grotere verscheidenheid aan onderwerpen en gezichtspunten aan bod komen.

De bijdrage kan aldus een bevordering zijn tot het welzijn van de gemeenschap. Ook kunnen bijdragen mogelijkheden creëren  om nieuwe dingen te doen ontstaan.

Maar ook door giften binnen de kerkgemeenschap kan de ecclesia of parochie op haar beurt dan weer bijdragen tot de leefgemeenschap, het dorp of woonomgeving. Kerken hebben een lange traditie in het zich vertonen in de burgerlijke leefgemeenschap. In de Angelsaksische landen is het gewoonte dat kerken allerlei volksactiviteiten doorheen het jaar aanbieden. In onze contreien komt dat niet zo veel voor, buiten bij de katholieke kerk de verhuring van de parochiehuizen waar dan allerlei eetfestijnen en andere zaken worden aangeboden om de mensen in het lokaal te ontmoeten. Ook valt het op dat het de kerken zijn die in de oude wijken blijven als andere organisaties al zijn vertrokken. Zij proberen daar ter beschikking te zijn voor de behoeftigen en hulp te bieden waar het kan. Voor die blijvende aanwezigheid, ook wel kerkelijke presentie genoemd, zijn volgens sommige mensen beroepskrachten 'onontbeerlijk'. Voor hen is het voor vrijwilligers te veel gevraagd om het werk in de wijken alleen te moeten uitvoeren. En eigenlijk is dat wel zo, alleen kan men dat niet aan, maar in onderlinge samenwerking van de kerkleden zou dat wel mogelijk kunnen gemaakt worden. Samen kunnen alle leden onder een bepaalde leiding aandacht besteden aan de problemen in wijken en de rol die de geloofsgemeentes kunnen spelen ter verbetering van die problemen.



De benadering, inzichten en methodes van de Christen Gemeenschap kunnen een bijdrage leveren aan een harmonische samenleving en het geluk en welzijn bevorderen van zo veel mogelijk levende wezens.

De gastvrijheid van de kerkgemeenschap hoort zich zich verder uit te strekken tot aan de tafel van de Heer waarbij alle gedoopten welkom zijn maar de anderen zich ook welkom voelen om samen deelgenoot te zijn van een wonderbare gebeurtenis.

Waren vroeger parochianen heel nauw betrokken op het kerkelijk leven, nu is het moeilijk om vrijwilligers en vrijwilligsters te vinden. Veel mensen kunnen geen tijd vinden om zelf met activiteiten in de kerkgemeenschap te investeren. Voor hen lijkt de financiële bijdrage de makkelijkste manier om de kerkgemeenschap te steunen.
Wanneer je evenwel geïnteresseerd bent in geloof, ontkom je er echter niet aan om je verhouding tot de ontwikkelingen in de kerkgemeenschap te bepalen. Iedereen op deze aarde moet tot zelfonderzoek komen. Jezelf vragen gaan stellen: waar geloof ík in, wat wil ík met mijn geloof, waarvoor heb ík de kerkgemeenschap nodig en welke bijdrage kan ík aan die kerkgemeenschap leveren? Omdat geloof en kerk niet vanzelfsprekend meer zijn, is het ook zo moeilijk om een antwoord op deze vragen te vinden.

Daarom is het fijn dat er in de mensengeschiedenis voorbeelden te vinden zijn van vrouwen en mannen die ons kunnen helpen om onze eigen weg te vinden. Vrouwen en mannen die een bijzondere betekenis hebben vanwege de manier waarop zij geleefd hebben. Zij kunnen ons helpen om de richting te vinden waarin wij antwoorden kunnen vinden op onze levensvragen.

God heeft mensen nodig. Hij had Jezus van Nazareth nodig. Maar vooral ook: hij heeft ons nodig, om de liefde handen en voeten te geven. In ons handelen kan Gods licht doorbreken. dit is trouwens wat Jezus van zijn volgelingen verwacht, dat zij het evangelie verder verspreiden maar ook die onontbeerlijke liefde uitdragen. Elkaar het leven geven... dat kunnen wij! Dat doen we door uit ons eigen wereldje te stappen en elkaar aandacht te geven, elkaar au serieus te nemen en door te luisteren naar elkaars verhalen en noden. Door elkaar te laten voelen: ik ben met jou begaan. Door samen te komen op bepaalde plaatsen kan elke gelovige zijn geloof mee uitdragen maar ook tot steun en toeverlaat voor anderen zijn. Het sociale contact dat er in de leefgemeenschap van die geloofsgroep dan gegeven kan worden is van zeer groot belang. Dat is een niet te verwaarlozen bijdrage.

Voor kleine kleine geloofsgemeenschappen, vooral al zij niet gedragen worden door institutionele kerken, is het veel moeilijker om overeind te kunnen blijven en om de kosten aan te kunnen. Doordat zij reeds op veel minder middelen beroep kunnen doen zijn zij enorm beperkt in de uitdraging van hun geloof en in de kenbaarmaking van hun geloofsgemeenschap.
De onderlinge verbondenheid tussen mensen in de kleine geloofsgemeenschap kan zeker blijven - hoe klein in aantal de gemeenschap ook is, als deze op waar geloof is gebouwd.  Het komt er dan op aan dat de kleine groep van mensen enthousiast kan blijven en dat zij steeds blijven  zoeken naar vormen van samen-kerk-zijn die passen bij hun gemeenschap.

Als plaatselijke gelovigen kunnen wij slecht hopen dat bij meer mensen meer besef komt dat de verschillende deelactiviteiten ten dienste staan van de opbouw van de ene gemeenschap en haar missie. Dat meer mensen meer actief betrokken mogen worden bij de opbouw en het onderhoud van de kerkgemeenschap en mogen beseffen dat er een ‘groot’ aantal kleine taken zijn die noodzakelijk kunnen vervuld worden. Iedereen in de geloofsgemeenshap moet er zich bewust van zijn dat de kerkgemeenschap een positief opvallende en tegelijkertijd herkenbare rol moet vervullen in de dorpsgemeenschap en dat activiteiten en projecten van de kerkgemeenschap een grotere bekendheid kunnen geven aan de geloofsgemeenschap waardoor op haar beurt de gemeenschap ook weer zal kunnen aangroeien en zo een goede return krijgen.

Making church

That God our prayers wants is sometimes found strange even by Christian believers. But our Creator has His eye on us and would like to have it tht His creation loves Him as their father. We should show our presence, our gifts and our service as the expression of our gratitude to God. Jesus gave us the task to pray to His Father as well instituted he at the Last Supper, just a few hours before his dead, the Memorial Meal.

As such we do have received the task to come together, regularly meeting to remember the dead of Jesus.It is our presence our physical presence, our attendance, that we have to give to God. As part of the limb of Christ we should become thriving blood and give the community warmth and health to live and grow.
Remember the old story about the blind man who also had great difficulty hearing? He couldn't see and couldn't hear, but he never missed church. He was there every Sunday. Someone asked him, "Why? You can't see what's happening and you can't hear much of what is being said, but you are always here at church. You are always here. Why? Why do you come?"
He answered, "Because I want the world to know whose side I'm on."

It does not have to be every Sunday or even on Sunday, but we should have to be able to find a day in the so many hours which lay for us. Every one of us who finds himself a believer should be courageous enough to come out in this world as a follower of Christ and show it by his attitude.The world should tell by the way you live, by your love for the church, by your devotion to the church, by your church attendance record, whose side you are on. In the spirit of gratitude to God for his inexpressible gift of Jesus Christ, we can give our prayers and our presence.

When we as believers would unite and come together we shall be able to create church. We can become church.

We can pray, too, that God will be with you and will use you as His instrument of love and peace and grace. But then you have to be prepared to be willing to give yourself as an instrument in the hands of God.

Then it becomes important that we ask God to create His instrument here on earth for us. We can pray that we can form with others a church where we may be faithful in continuing the preaching, teaching, healing, caring ministry of Christ. Please pray for your church. The church needs your prayers.

In the articles Opbouw van een ecclesia en verbonden kosten & The Ecclesia in the churchsystem we go in to present the possibilities and difficulties we have to face forming an ecclesia.

We show that the point is that we are all needed. But, you know, there is another thing to be said that is even more important: We all need to give. Giving is good for our souls. It's the spiritual expression of our gratitude and commitment to God and it is so important to our spiritual health. Virtue is its own reward and so is giving. The real reward is in the giving. And this giving can be in different ways. Everybody has something in which he can excell. that what we can do well we can use for the community. We can give our service to all the believers who want to become united.

When we join hands in grateful service to God we are making the church together. When in gratitude to God for His inexpressible gift of Jesus Christ, we give our prayers, our presence, our gifts and our service. We are making the church together. Let's do just that - for our own sakes, for the good of others, and for the greater glory of God.

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Read more >  The Ecclesia in the churchsystem

For the Dutch version go to  / Nederlandse versie: Maken van een kerk

Dat wij allemaal samen kunnen werken in het verwezenlijken van een ware kerkgemeenschap kan u vinden in  Opbouw van een ecclesia en verbonden kosten & uitgebreider in de Engelse versie The Ecclesia in the churchsystem

An ecclesia in your neighborhood

Sometimes you hear people complaining that they do not have a church nearby.
But then you could wonder why they do not bring the church in their village. God is everywhere and you can reach Him at any place all over the world. He is not limited to a certain building.
So those who would like to have an ecclesia nearby could start to create that place in their home town.

The Brothers in Christ prefer to use the term ecclesia (ekklesia in the Greek) meaning ‘gathering’ and historically refers to any gathering in any context, secular or otherwise. The word implies people not buildings or programs. All of God’s people make up the church. We are the church together. ‘Church’ is people. That is the view the earliest Christians had of themselves.‘Church’ is loaded with so many connotations. We wish we didn’t have to use it! One easily thinks of buildings with pointy roofs, stained glass windows, pews, pulpits, shrines and statues, priests and pastors. People think of it as ‘where you go’ and ‘what you do’. This is a far cry from the view the earliest Christians had of themselves.

The basic unit of the church in the first three centuries was the ‘household’ or ‘oikos’ (Gr). Oikos refers to the ‘household’ rather than just the building. Households in New Testament times included wider family, slaves, servants, clients and in fact one’s ‘sphere of influence’. We as brothers and sisters in Christ should feel bounded together and should not feel that there are any differences between us in rank, colour, age. Everybody in the community should have the same value. Our binding element should be Christ Jesus, who died for us all. As his followers we should be like being his brother or sister and should share the love with others as he showed his love for all those around him.  Jesus went into different houses and showed in them how people could come to his Father. In one upper room he also showed the apostles how they should continue his work and have a meal together with other believers. Around the table he asked them to do in remembrance of him a breaking of the bread and a sharing of the cup of the New Covenant. Jesus did not do that in the temple, but in a hired room in a normal house. We also can either hire a room, use an open or public space or better still, use a living or other room in some ones house. Jesus was reared in a home in a family and as a family man he loved also the atmosphere and fulfilled his ministry often in homes. The house was, as today, the place where the basic unit of society lives – the family. Note the many times we read of Jesus eating with His disciples and with others – in homes.
Disciples were sent out on a door-to-door mission and Jesus also told them to continue their way in case they were not welcome at a certain place. After Pentecost, Christians met in houses. In Romans 16:3-5 and in several other places in the New Testament, reference is made to the church that meets in a home. Work and ministry in homes was part of Paul’s mission journeys.


Start with two or three friends - have a meal together, and share your vision.  Plan to encourage one another, share you lives, pray together to seek God's way forward to be and to do what He wants for you as a gathering and for the community around you.  It's as simple as that!

In our small community it is important to be open to new comers. But we always do have to be aware that we all come from many different experiences in our Christian journey. the ecclesia does not have to have many people, it is more important that those who are present are people who want to share the Good News and want to serve God. However small it is important that they are willing to encourage one another, share life, pray together, read the Bible together, and enjoy God and one another.

You could ask if there has to be a strict order of the gathering. Except that there should be a welcoming moment, an opening, a centre part  with lots of time to be taken for the Word of God with Bible reading and exhortation, the Breaking of the Bread and then a closure, there should be no strict format you have to follow or for everyone to agree on minor matters of doctrine for this to happen. It just can be inspiring to have every time a different service. Also we should avoid any regular uttering of preformed repeating texts. You do not have to be afraid to create prayers or moments of meditation on the spur of the moment, or to be afraid that the texts would not be brought fluently enough when it is not a set text. Members of the community should be sympathetic to anybody who dares to open his or her mouth. Understanding has to go out to all those who bring something into the service. Spoken or sang anything is welcome. A worship service has to be one of action and everybody in the ecclesia should be part of that action. All, young or old can contribute.

The experience of the Risen Lord was an ever-present vibrant reality within the individual and amongst the followers of Christ as they encouraged, blessed, taught and enabled one another, and as they joyously spread the Good News of the Gospel from household to household. Today is should not be different. We all should spread the word and that beautiful message of the Good News the New Covenant and the coming of the Kingdom of God.
By coming together in one place or other we can give each other a moment of blessed time.  for us it can create an opportunity to built one another from the teaching we received from the time we could have free to read in the Bible. We should be aware that not everybody has the same chances to spend the same amount on reading the Word of God. Also not everybody has the same gifts to read and understand easily. So we all should help each other to see the light. We should give each other the possibility to bring forward some questions on all sorts of matters. All the questions brought forward can then be answered in the light of Gods Word. By bringing forwards different interpretations every body can see  and hear how others think and understand certain phrases in the Bible. Everybody can also share the experience of the ways of God in each person. Very grassroots and alive. Teaching and admonishing one another all can look at and share prophecy, tongues and other gifts.

We should not be afraid that every worshipping service is different. What happens arises from the experience of God that each member has. Growth happens as the encouraging and enabling one to another takes us further on the journey as individuals and as a group. In the ecclesia we should enable and encourage the gifts of one another for the building of the Body. And this is easier to do in a smaller community, so it may not bother us that we are such a few.

Christadelphian Introduction Service for unmarried Christadelphian brethren

ChristadelphianSingles.org, an Introduction Service for unmarried Christadelphian brethren (brothers and sisters in Christ) who are seeking helpmates "in the Lord." , went "live" earlier this year and ministers to unmarried Christadelphians worldwide. It is a resource for single brothers and sisters over the age of 24 who may be interested in meeting other Christadelphians. In addition to providing a matchmaking service, the site also has many Bible-based articles on the topics of dating and marriage.

The site also wants to be a possible future resource for those within the ecclesia.

http://www.ChristadelphianSingles.org

How do you become a "Virtual" Bible School attendee?

How do you become a "Virtual" Bible School attendee?  It's easy.  Here are three steps:
 
1. Obtain a set of Bible School CDs or audio tapes.  If  you or your ecclesia don't have an audio library, know that the WCF has a large selection of recordings that will allow you to listen in on some wonderful past Bible School classes.  Here is a link to the section in the WCF Resource Center where you will be able to order from literally hundreds of subjects, speakers, and even hymns and songs.  http://www.facebook.com/l/;https://wcfoundation.org/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=7  
 
2.  Set aside a specific time each day to listen to the classes.  If you commute to work, listen to your classes on the way to and from the office each day.  If you are at home, consider playing the classes at the same time your brothers and sisters might be sitting in on "live" classes at Bible School.  
 
3.  If at all possible, make a point to get together with another Brother or Sister during the week.  Meet for coffee.  Invite them over for dinner.  Plan your own "ice cream social".  Find ways to encourage each other as we see the day approaching.  If you're like me, one of my favorite parts of Bible School is the fellowship shared with friends.   
 
Have a great week.

God won't ask

God won’t ask what kind of car you drove, but he’ll ask how many people you drove who didn’t have transportation.

God won’t ask the square footage of your house, but he’ll ask how many people you welcomed into your home.

God won’t ask how many times you read the Bible to yourself, but he’ll ask how many people you read the Bible with.

God won’t ask what your highest salary was, but he’ll ask if you compromised your character to obtain it.

God won’t ask how many friends you had, but he’ll ask how many people to whom you were a friend.

God won’t ask how much you got out of your church meetings, but he’ll ask how much you gave to others at your church meetings.

God won’t ask about the clothes you had in your closet, but he’ll ask how many you helped to clothe.

God won’t ask in what neighborhood you lived, but he’ll ask how you treated your neighbors.

Matt.5:28 - “Then the king will say to those on his right, “Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.”

Whatever you do for the least of these…

Dutch version / Nederlands > God zal niet vragen ...

Baptised sister not of higher status before God then an unbaptised young male?

Robin Hughes from New Zealand wrote in a Facebook topic:

When an unbaptised young male is allowed to speak is not the baptised sister not of higher status before God?
One of the issues involved is that of usurping authority. If she is not usurping authority then that eliminates that as an issue in that particular situation.

The issue of Disorder in the meeting is not valid if its building harmony.
Don't get legal on this. Its not a matter of God having made this rule and so everyone must do this or that there is not such a rule and so therefore we can do whatever we like. We have freedom in Christ and yet Love constrains us.

What are the issues the apostles were looking at? Is it really about sisters being weak or is it really about brothers being weak?

Adam failed to Lead the woman in the beginning. The woman failed to follow. So it appears we are each condemned to do what we are weakest at. That which we need to learn and do.

We know that Jesus's view of woman was much better then that of the Jews. Jesus brang the woman forward out of the Womans part of the synagogue to the mens part so that he might heal her.

Pauls teachings although they may seem harsh on woman was actually liberating considering how they had been treated prior to this.

Through christ the woman had found Freedom at last. The issue of taking their head coverings off arose and Paul showed good reasoning for keeping the head covering on when praying and prophesying. Something he reminded them was demanded by Roman Law.

Paul had much concern for the disorder entering the Eclessia due to the new found Freedom in Christ. One of the long list referred to the speaking of the women some of which were uneducated. Asking Questions in the meeting that were very disruptive. So rather then this they should ask at home so that the meeting could proceed in order.

As for teaching the bible gives the children that is the unbaptised to be taught by her. This is largely due to the need for someone to take responsibility for their education and tuition. This is a priveledge and not something to be taken lightly. Under Jewish practice the Rabai probably did a lot of this teaching.
The woman having a lesser Role is a myth. Its just as important as the Male's who are expected to lead for their growth and development a very difficult thing for males who find it much easier to do what their wives tell them. The woman naturally finds it easy to lead and so it is to her to learn in quietness and meekness.

So this is my view. Everything that is in scripture is for our learning. Walk in Love. Err on the side of caution. Do not create a stumbling block for your brother/sister. If a woman is to read or speak it should be not usurping the brothers role, that is of authority, that if they ask her to read or speak and it be with the consent of those brothers present. Any situation when the unbaptised is allowed to read or speak the Sisters should definately be allowed to speak.

The responsibility of Love goes both ways. Whether you are strict or liberal to walk in love to act out of love and care for your brothers and sisters rather then out of Fleshly legalistic desires. For legal thinking is of the world and the thinking of Love and care comes from the spirit.

One of the things that God loves most Is unity
and One of the things he hates most is divisiveness.

Shouldn't we be taking these things into consideration when looking at issues. Whatever is not of Love is not of God.

Jesus's Teachings were Love. His doctrine is to Love God and one another. If you miss the basics of the truth when examining the details of walking in love. Then you have completely missed the point. When an issue arises I believe God is more concerned about how we behave then who is right.
Its more important to do what you believe then believe what is right. We know this from the scripture. We know that although Paul had Freedom in Christ that love constrained him that although sometimes we have the freedom to do things that doesn't mean its the right or most loving thing to do.

Communion and day of worship

* Do Christadelphians keep Communion?
Yes. They usually call it the Breaking of Bread (Acts 2:42). The Lord Jesus has commanded us to meet together regularly to break bread and drink wine, in memory of his sacrifice until he comes back. The bread represents his body, and the wine represents his blood (1 Corinthians 11:23-26; John 6:53-56).

* Why is it necessary for us to break bread and drink wine?
(a) Baptism is described as a new birth. A growing child needs food at regular intervals. The breaking of bread is a symbolic meal, which provides us with spiritual food.
(b) In baptism our past sins are forgiven, but our weak human nature cannot stop sinning. The breaking of bread service reminds us of the sacrifice of Christ and gives us opportunity to ask for the forgiveness of our sins again.
(c) By the breaking of bread we are reminded of the vows we made at our baptism. It is a time for rededication. It reminds us that Jesus, though now in heaven, will come back to the earth.
(d) The Breaking of Bread also strengthens our fellowship with our fellow believers. We are told not to stay away from the assembly of believers, but to be present as an encouragement to those who share our beliefs. To stay away from the believers’ assembly is to wilfully sin (1 Corinthians 11:23-29; Matthew 26:26-28; 1 Corinthians 10:16-17; Acts 2:42, 46, Hebrews 10:24-25).

* Must we break bread and drink wine on any special day?
No. The breaking of bread was instituted on a weekday evening. Jesus said we should keep it ‘often’, but he did not say how often, or on which day. The early disciples usually kept this ceremony on ‘the first day of the week’ - Sunday. For most people nowadays, Sunday still seems to be the most convenient day (Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 11:25-26).

* What other services do Christadelphians hold?
They hold meetings for preaching the true gospel and for studying the Bible. Christadelphian meetings usually include hymns, prayers, and Bible readings. These should be supported as much as possible (Hebrews 10:24,25).

* Must we keep the Sabbath Day?
No. Jesus fulfilled the law of the Sabbath (Matthew 5:17). When God gave the fourth commandment, “Remember the Sabbath day …” (Exodus 20:8) He was providing one day a week rest from the curse placed on Adam to work “all the days of your life” (Genesis 3:17). For those who trusted God and kept the Sabbath, He made a special provision to sustain them (Exodus 16:22-24). To reject God’s Sabbath, therefore, was to refuse God’s gift of grace. But Jesus came as God’s gift of grace to all who believe in him. He performed God’s work on the Sabbath and declared himself ‘Lord of the Sabbath’ (Matthew 12:5-8; John 5:17). Jesus removed the burden of the curse of Adam (Matthew 11:28-30; 6:31-33). Now all days become a sabbath to the true Christian for whom God has prepared an eternal Sabbath of rest (Hebrews 4:8-10).
Some like to set aside a special day or special moments for dedication to God. This is good, and the principles for doing this are explained in Romans 14:5-9.

* Should a Christian pray every day?
Yes. God wants us to pray to Him regularly. Jesus gave a parable to teach that men ‘ought always to pray and not to lose heart’. Christians who do not pray soon lose contact with God. The Lord Jesus sometimes spent whole nights in prayer. Prayer should be a very important part of our lives too. Jesus Christ is our High Priest in the presence of God, and we pray to God through Christ (Luke 18:1; Matthew 6:5-13; Luke 6:12; James 5:16-18; Romans 12:12; Acts 2:42; Revelation 5:8).


- From the CBM booklet Preparing for baptism # The Christian Life

> Sabbath according to the Scriptures
> The Breaking of Bread
   To take the emblems of Christ's sufferings and sacrifice is the highest honour which a man or woman could have.
Along with prayer and Bible reading, regular obedience to Christ's command to break bread and drink wine in memory of his sacrifice is vital. "This do in remembrance of me", Jesus commanded (Luke 22:19). It was his wish that his followers should regularly do this until his second coming, when Jesus will share the bread and wine with them again (1 Cor. 11:26; Luke 22:16--18).

also of interest > Ecclesial Life

In Dutch:

> Avondmaal des Heren
> Teken van het verbond
> Sabbat of zondag
> Zondagrust of sabbatviering